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06/11/2020 at 23:30 • Filed to: Craigslist Challenge
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"Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available" (whoistheleader2)
06/11/2020 at 23:30 • Filed to: Craigslist Challenge | 2
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Let’s have another of those Craigslist challenges. This time I’m turning my attention to the very bottom end of the market. I was thinking about Deal Killer - Powered by Focus was searching for a cheap car for his son. The Nissan he was considering, despite the obvious safety issues, surely is cooler than a beater Camry with its unapologetic teal (hehe) and lack of plebian rear doors.
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But what is the cheapest car for sale near me that can truly be considered cool and is in good running condition? I set a cap of $2,500 and got searching.
I don't want to exclude you non American Oppos so whatever is the smallest amount of money possible on an online site is allowed. Gumtree or the List of Craig, it's all the same.
2007 Saab 9-5 - $2,500
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Doesn’t leave much room for repairs but these weren’t too awful to keep running. Well dang, I’m really really tempted. This is one classy turbocharged manual rocketship of a premium saloon for way cheaper than I imagined. 160k miles isn’t too bad on this end of the car market.
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And this Saab Sonnet doesn’t qualify but I like Saabs and it is also cheap.
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Same story for this Diahatsu.
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And this Protege would be very cool without catastrophic rod knock.
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But this Sentra SE-R could probably get a new manifold for under $2,500, but that would be breaking my own rules. Dang this is hard.
Well, I said cool and running, not reliable.
1995 BMW 318i convertible - $2,000
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I would not advise this at all. Those not entirely distasteful wheels say enough.
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Wait a minute, never mind a post for another day.
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Huh, maybe the least cool car I’ve come across, to the layman at least.
2000 Acura Integra - $2,000
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One grand for every finely aged year. Doesn’t look too bad. I may have found a winner. Automatics aren’t exactly uncool except maybe in a car like this. What have you got?
Wow, so many people list a car with a 0 off the end.
Update: Strong contendor
2003 Nissan Pathfinder - $2,300
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Huh, way better than I would expect. I think they maybe just don’t know what they have. I remember almost buying a green one for nearly twice this.
For Sweden
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06/11/2020 at 23:39 |
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May I introduce you to a straight-six BMW 3 series for $2500: https://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/d/commerce-2001-bmw-330i-4dr/7140229922.html
Or a sweet truck that probably just need a hammer tap to run for $2500: https://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/d/tucker-1985-ford-150-lariat-xlt/7140217778.html
Or a Honda Accord that is cheaper for single moms: https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/d/atlanta-2002-honda-accord/7140190572.html
MiniGTI - now with XJ6
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06/11/2020 at 23:40 |
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I recently bought my first SAAB (a 1998 900 convertible) with the 2.0 version of that engine. According to the internet they really are pretty reliable as long as you keep after oil changes and make sure the PCV is happy. Have someone drop the oil pan and clean it out if there’s any sign of low oil pressure (sludge)
Also as I paid too much for mine, I’d say very NP at $2500
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> For Sweden
06/11/2020 at 23:42 |
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The first two are seriously cool, but the last too obvious. I very much like that 85 Lariat. The 3 series looks way cleaner on the outside than it has any right to. No interior pictures but it may match the condition of the exterior. Clearly garaged all the time.
Wait, are you Atlanta area?
ranwhenparked
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06/11/2020 at 23:44 |
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Well, here’s an ‘05 Town Car with 226,000 miles for $2400 - should be good for a few 100k more. No sign of the usual peeling paint on the hood, either, so should clean up cosmetically.
https://delaware.craigslist.org/cto/d/earleville-2005-lincoln-town-car/7140151204.html
‘86 Camaro, V6 and roached interior, but, still, an even $2,000.
https://delaware.craigslist.org/ctd/d/georgetown-1986-camaro/7138625334.html
‘03 Crown Victoria LX, got some issues, but only 160k and $1500.
https://delaware.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-grove-2003-crown-victoria-lxi/7137936005.html
‘87 Ranger, reminds me a lot of the one my dad had when I was a kid, even has similar fender bender damage (in his case, my grandmother/his mother in law backed into him in the driveway with her Mustang II Ghia ). $1200
https://delaware.craigslist.org/cto/d/milford-1987-ford-ranger-95-rust-free/7132143050.html
Speaking of performance challenged Mustangs, a ‘99 V6 with 170,000 miles and not inconsiderable front end damage. But, can’t expect much for $600.
https://delaware.craigslist.org/cto/d/greenwood-1999-mustang/7134289180.html
AestheticsInMotion
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06/11/2020 at 23:44 |
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Slim pickings. CL is dead right now, so I’m bending the rules and giving you some two-wheeled contenders.
A super quirky honda motorcycle and the bike that I should probably be calling in sick to go buy tomorrow....
https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/mcy/d/lacey-honda-pacific-coast-adventure/7128328962.html
https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/mcy/d/longview-2003-suzuki-sv650/7140244401.html
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For Sweden
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06/11/2020 at 23:47 |
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No, I just searched the same area that you searched in, per the Craigslist posts you included.
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> MiniGTI - now with XJ6
06/11/2020 at 23:47 |
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So NP you almost wonder why you aren’t on your way to see it right now. I like Saabs, I want a more exciting car, and it is worth less than my current car while being less than I currently have saved. I could buy it tomorrow and sell the Cruze for extra cash. Why am I giving myself such bad ideas?
Jim Spanfeller
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06/11/2020 at 23:48 |
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‘74 Super Beetle with a roof rack, slight lift, and safari tires. The definition of cool. https://boise.craigslist.org/cto/d/emmett-1974-vw-super-beetle/7140206124.html
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> AestheticsInMotion
06/11/2020 at 23:48 |
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Undeniably cool, but the Honda is only cool to those in the know. Speaking of in the know, tell me more.
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> ranwhenparked
06/11/2020 at 23:51 |
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Panther platforms aren’t cool most of the time. They have lots of potential but in stock form they are just an old man car to most people. Mustang is a certifiably bad idea, but cool.
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> For Sweden
06/11/2020 at 23:53 |
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Interesting. . .
Why? Too familiar with your own listings? There really are some gems around here with the temperate snow free climate and tendency for no one who lives here to be from here. The cars are as crazy a mix as the people.
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> Jim Spanfeller
06/11/2020 at 23:56 |
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Roofrack is too modern for the look, but cool in a quirky sort of way. The most fun way to be uncool maybe.
I wonder what those seats are out of. Doesn’t look aftermarket but I think I’ve seen them before. They look close to an S2000 but not quite, so I’m thinking Honda.
NP though.
facw
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06/11/2020 at 23:56 |
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I took a look... Maybe this:
1988 Mercedes Benz 300TE $1000 (Woburn, MA)
I think it’s a bit too beat to be truly cool though.
Moving along, for the same price we have this:
Jeep Cherokee Classic for Sale $1000 (Metro Boston)
Mmm... teal. I’m a bit worried by the single pic, mangled looking rockers, and the fact he’s looking for someone who likes to put some TLC into these cars.
Not really too much else until you get up around $2500
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For Sweden
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06/12/2020 at 00:00 |
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It’s a good distraction from a journal article I’m supposed to be reading.
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> facw
06/12/2020 at 00:00 |
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Teal Tuesday is too fresh in my mind, and besides, I think the Jeep is cooler to the layman, if that’s the goal . The Mercedes is Oppo certified but not particularly enviable to most people, especially with that paint. Interior looks way too good, though that material would look the same 400,000 miles from now so it’s not really indicative.
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Jim Spanfeller
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06/12/2020 at 00:01 |
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Or... how about this classic GMC truck? https://boise.craigslist.org/cto/d/boise-1961-gmc-5500/7124611679.html It starts, runs, and drives and will only cost you $1,500. Sure, it’s a bit large, and slow, and likely terrible on gas, but come on. Classic semi tractor. Plop a bed on it, and you’ll be outdoing every brodozer. Nothing more trucky than an actual commercial truck. Plus, it’s got nice patina.
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> For Sweden
06/12/2020 at 00:01 |
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I’m not supposed to be doing anything besides going to bed because it’s midnight. Perusing other area’s Craigslist is always interesting.
CompactLuxuryFan
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06/12/2020 at 00:02 |
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Didn’t find anything in San Francisco ($2,500 will not cover a month’s rent in a studio here), but I did find this:
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/d/san-francisco-6-speed-manual-2013-bmw/7134399713.html
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Jim Spanfeller
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06/12/2020 at 00:05 |
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Beetles are the classic “so theoretically uncool that it’s actually cool and hip” cars. If you see someone driving one, you know it’s by choice. They are not ashamed of what they are doing. They are Beetle drivers and proud of it, and any insults will just bounce off of them. Because Beetle drivers are above that nonsense.
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> Jim Spanfeller
06/12/2020 at 00:06 |
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No, NO NO, this is too good to brodozer! I must preserve this for all of (Oppo’s) eternity for posterity!
I worry it’s worth more than $1,500 in scrap metal though. Oh no. But still, what exactly would you use this for? There still manage to be two IH Loadstars easily visible in my town though occasionally used for actual work so I guess there is still hope. No cargo upfit may doom it.
That’s a cool license plate design. Georgia just got their first cool design for far too long.
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> Jim Spanfeller
06/12/2020 at 00:07 |
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Still less painfully uncool than the Type 2s, especially the 80s non Westfalias. But yes, you know what you’ve signed up for.
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> CompactLuxuryFan
06/12/2020 at 00:09 |
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I hate to be picky, but non name brand gas is hard to come by in competitive areas. Still, **long whistle** dang that is one pretty car and I very much want it. I think he might have better luck with BaT, or maybe Cars and Bids haha.
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Jim Spanfeller
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06/12/2020 at 00:17 |
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Well, with a truck like this, just think... Sure it’s a weird starting point for a project vehicle l, but an extremely flexible one. The engine bay is probably plenty large enough for whatever sane engine swaps you desire, while the exposed frame out back has all the room in the world for whatever engine or engines you want. Want a Detroit Diesel v12 or whatever? That’ll fit. A pair of twin turbocharged and supercharged LS v8s? No problem! A backward-facing secondary truck cab for no apparent reason? Sure! Whatever it is, it will probably fit. Or you could just keep it in decent running condition and drive it all over the place just for the heck of it. Maybe strap a trunk to the back and use it as a grocery getter. You can do whatever you want in an old truck like this!
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> Jim Spanfeller
06/12/2020 at 00:19 |
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Which is what worries me. It could fall easily into the hands of a scrapper or an idealistic nincompoop who might ruin it. Then again, it could be purchased by someone who appreciates it for what it is. It’s a blank canvas in a world with a surplus of bad artists.
Just Jeepin'
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06/12/2020 at 00:23 |
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See, now you made me find this pile o’ junk , which otherwise would have been sold before I got back around to CL.
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/peru-jeeps/7140221267.html
However, this is the real find.
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-1948-chevy-truck/7139846811.html
$1900! What a steal!
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Jim Spanfeller
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06/12/2020 at 00:24 |
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Don’t worry, I think most boomers are still too obsessed with muscle cars and ‘32 Fords to pay much attention to this thing. If I had more space and money, I’d probably want to convert this thing into a car hauler for junkyard rescues and whatnot. Maybe LS swap it just so it can keep up with traffic, but preserve the excellent patina. It’s a neat truck.
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> Just Jeepin'
06/12/2020 at 00:26 |
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Woah, that Chevy is way too nice for that price. I don’t even see any rust from the photos.
The Jeeps can rust in pieces.
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Just Jeepin'
> Just Jeepin'
06/12/2020 at 00:27 |
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I suppose this is the real gem, though.
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/fishers-vw-cabrio-2001/7136835658.html
$2200. Why aren’t any of the Jeeps I want that reasonably priced?
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Just Jeepin'
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06/12/2020 at 00:28 |
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Somebody’s going to be thrilled with that truck, I’m sure. Way too impractical for me, but still, tempting to buy it just to try to sell it on BaT.
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CompactLuxuryFan
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06/12/2020 at 00:29 |
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Off-brand gas stations are surprisingly abundant around here! Plus ARCO, which I dunno if this person would count as “brand”, but I’m guessing not.
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> Jim Spanfeller
06/12/2020 at 00:30 |
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Swap the gutless engine, build a flatbed on the back, and watch the compliments roll in. Imagine that with a rollback bed. Maybe a little too short of a wheelbase but still. I think the patina’d paint should stay. Reminds me of that GMC DIOUCCUSA with the weird attachment on the back without any other cargo area.
https://oppositelock.kinja.com/dioccusa-overgrown-gmc-with-wideo-1843531564
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> Just Jeepin'
06/12/2020 at 00:31 |
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I actually am not opposed to flipping it simply to put it in the hands of someone who can appreciate it and making some cash while you’re at it. Someone will be getting a steal.
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> CompactLuxuryFan
06/12/2020 at 00:35 |
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Eh, there is the odd unbranded one but mostly just Race Tracs and other well established ones. There is one station that literally doesn’t even have so much as a beer advertisement anywhere that I see no reason to investigate. I don’t remember them even having a permanent sign for their prices. If I recall some of the mom and pop convenience stores have really tiny Tom Thumb branding, which is what Kroger uses, also with nearly nonexistent branding.
Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
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06/12/2020 at 00:40 |
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Thank you for considering me in my quest for finding an inexpensive car for my son. As many, many, many people have pointed out, a ‘95 Nissan is not the safest car in the world. Duly noted. Several commenters have said I could find a newer, safer car for $2,000 or less. Let me state, that I’ve spent the past couple of hours scouring the internets, and haven’t found anything that would be a better alternative within an hours drive of my house. I am somewhat constrained in the size of the car, as I can’t street park a car where I live, as the street is too narrow, and I have limited parking on my drive-way. So, no to a big GM W-body car or something similar
. I also have to be able to maintain this car, and show my son how to do simple repairs. So, as cool as a Saab or BMW might be, no way would I consider buying such a car. That late 90's to early 00's cars hit just the right sweet spot of being reliable, easy to maintain and having airbags and decent handling. It’ll be interesting to see what people come up with in their own local areas. Who knows, that Nissan might be a total shit show when I go look at it. At least it’s Teal. I love Teal. ;)
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> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
06/12/2020 at 00:45 |
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As always, it is so much harder in practice. It would have to be cheaper than that and have a full detail thrown in before I’d buy it, but I also live where lack of rust opens up so many more options. The color is indeed great. Ultimately, you want a car he can be proud of and a bright and cheerful uncommon old coupe does fit the bill. Combining cheap to run and cheap to buy is indeed quite hard and it looks like the panther platform is out of the picture, what I would otherwise suggest.
He could have had a turbocharged Saab, if you are willing to drive halfway across the country and break the bank, that is.
Too bad the Honda tax seems to keep old Civics from ever reaching that low.
boredalways
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06/12/2020 at 00:50 |
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Can you say “speeding, reckless driving, street racing, and/or probable cause”?!
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/greenwood-2005-gxp-bonneville/7135391326.html
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> boredalways
06/12/2020 at 00:59 |
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All of the above and then some. With the Northstar you won't be going far though.
SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
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06/12/2020 at 04:32 |
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1988 Honda Accord Si with 107,000 km ?
1990 Ford Capri turbo with the manual and 195,000 km https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1990-Ford-Capri-SA-Manual/OAG-AD-15511827?pageSource=details&id=OAG-AD-15511827
1989 Saab 900i, manual with 235,000 km on the clock....
Plus a tonne of other coolish , forgotten, forgettable or fucked vehicles that are all priced at AU$3,000 or nearestest offer.
Notable three grand mentions go to: two Mazda/Eunos 800's for the price of one; and an RX-8 with a blown motor.
Maxima Speed
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06/12/2020 at 06:47 |
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In my area it would have to be this V6, auto firebird just for the styling. For a young guy that styling, in a bright red, with T Tops? Thats seriously cool.
https://parkersburg.craigslist.org/cto/d/parkersburg-1997-firebird/7136018750.html
And then...... i might be a bit biased but considering that this car is just as fast, more reliable, and a genuinely beaitiful, and simple car. Im going to have to put this very nice example if a 4th gen Maxima down as a cool car, especially with the low miles.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/248567146435135/
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> Maxima Speed
06/12/2020 at 11:01 |
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I think I would rather have the Maxima and save some money.
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> SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
06/12/2020 at 11:06 |
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That Saab, mmmmmmm. That is way too clean for my own good.
Also, that Ford Capri has the single least comfo rtable looking back seat I've ever seen. I really love all of these and they seem way too good to be that cheap.
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> Just Jeepin'
06/12/2020 at 11:23 |
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It was a gem because it already sold. Great color.
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Just Jeepin'
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06/12/2020 at 11:29 |
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Truck went too. Quick.
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> Just Jeepin'
06/12/2020 at 11:31 |
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Not surprised at all.